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S6 Ep24: Why Most Founders Fail at PR (And How to Get Real Commercial Outcomes) | Moda PR
Episode 24
Wednesday, 4 November, 2026
Most founders think PR means getting a bit of press. It doesn’t. Good PR finds you investors, speaking opportunities and the right people knowing your name, but only once your foundations are in place.This week I’m joined by Jennifer and Ashley, co-founders of Moda PR. Jen quit her in-house PR job in 2020 to go freelance, with no plan beyond being her own boss. Ashley had been made redundant and was miserable in the job she’d rushed into. A mutual friend set them up on a mate date, Ashley started coming into Jen’s office every day, and before long she was a 50/50 co-founder. Six years on, they’ve built one of the few agencies doing founder PR properly.In this episode, we get into:- Niching down to personal PR when everyone said it would stunt their growth- The Emma Grede “celebrity CEO” debate, and why you’ve got to pay your dues first- When PR isn’t right just yet, and why they’ll turn work away- The PR foundations to get right first- Why one great piece of PR beats three 'clippings for your nan's fridge'- What’s next for founder PRIf you’ve ever wondered whether you’re ready for PR, or what good PR actually looks like, this one’s for you.🎙️ Recorded at Mollies, Manchester🤝 A huge thank you to our sponsor, We Are The Allies. If you’ve got a bank of ideas you can’t execute, or you need a creative specialist for your next brief, The Allies is your place for the best freelancers in the UK. Find out more at https://newbusiness.wearetheallies.com/katyleeson/Find Katy on her socials @katyleesonFollow Moda PR: @modapr__ | moda-pr.com







