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Ep 135 - Misyar, Secret Wives, Polygamy, Mut'ah: Halal or Haram? | Habeeb Akande
Friday, 24 October, 2025
Habeeb Akande joins BITC to talk misyar, secret wives, polygamy, passport wives, sex negative culture, and the nafs. We unpack how some men cherry pick fiqh to justify secrecy, how praiseworthy aims differ from loophole hunting, and what real justice and consent look like in practice. We also ask the question, have Muslims adopted a Christian style suspicion of pleasure and projected it onto Islam. Habeeb speaks from classical learning and lived research, Maliki fiqh, usul, erotology, African and Muslim cultures. We cover consent, maintenance, time rotation, publicity, and the harm rule, then end with a practical justice audit couples can use today. Key topics • Misyar, valid form versus wise practice, rights that are commonly waived, housing, maintenance, scheduled nights, publicity • Secret nikah and ghosted maintenance, predictable harm patterns, how to prevent them • Polygamy, justice in time and spending, financial readiness, disclosure, consent, children and custody • Sex negative culture, what Islam actually says about pleasure, reciprocity, privacy • The harm rule and maqasid, when legal form must give way to justice • Online masculinity scripts, cherry picked texts, how to read responsibly https://www.humanappeal.org.au/ Timestamps 0:00 Intro and sponsor, Human Appeal Australia 6:20 Sham marriages and travel examples, Morocco and Indonesia 22:12 Secrecy and first wife, why that is wild 33:30 Utopia myth, gender tension is not new 47:40 Legal versus ethical, muhallil and misuse 1:07:26 Misyar defined, two types in practice 1:08:39 Rights waived, Sauda example and scholar logic 1:26:25 Legalism versus spirituality, closing reflections 1:28:39 Polygamy basics and justice 1:36:39 Misyar and secret marriage 1:46:39 Rights versus responsibilities 1:56:39 Secrecy and predictable harm 2:06:39 Ethics over loopholes 2:16:39 Practical safeguards and consent 2:24:39 Closing counsel and outro






