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Identity at the CenterAuthor: Identity at the Center
Identity at the Center is a weekly podcast all about identity security in the context of identity and access management (IAM). With decades of real-world IAM experience, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman bring you conversations with news, topics, and guests from the identity management industry. Do you know who has access to what? Language: en Genres: Technology Contact email: Get it Feed URL: Get it iTunes ID: Get it |
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#418 - Ethical IAM with Elizabeth Garber
Episode 418
Monday, 27 April, 2026
What does it mean to build an identity system that is ethical? Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman are joined by Elizabeth Garber, Executive Director of IDPro and marketing lead for the OpenID Foundation, for a conversation spanning ethics in digital identity, the tension between privacy and safety, biometric exclusion risks, and how practitioners can use structured frameworks to navigate these discussions productively. Elizabeth shares her three-part career journey, the latest from the IDPro community, and previews her upcoming keynotes at EIC Berlin and Identiverse Las Vegas.Connect with Elizabeth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethgarberIDPro Discount - New members get $25 off their first year of membership: https://idpro.org/idac/Ethics and Digital Identity by Henk Marsman: https://bok.idpro.org/article/id/104/Ethics for Digital Identity and Identity-Driven Algorithms by Mike Kiser: https://bok.idpro.org/article/id/105/Human Centric Digital Identity white paper: https://openid.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Human-Centric_Digital_Identity_Final-v1.1.pdfConnect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.comTimestamps:00:00 Intro and Jim's allergy research03:42 Conference announcements: EIC and Identiverse06:00 Welcome Elizabeth Garber07:04 Elizabeth's three-part origin story11:55 IDPro mission and the identity community18:13 Membership, CIDPRO certification, and the Body of Knowledge21:17 IDPro Slack community23:40 IdentiBeer and local meetups26:26 IDPro listener discount at idpro.org/idac29:00 Operationalizing ideas in IAM32:19 Ethics in the IDPro Body of Knowledge33:30 Defining ethics in technology34:19 The trolley problem and moral consistency37:10 Big tech, privacy, and law enforcement39:28 Where practitioners start with ethics43:30 Biometric exclusion and the Uganda story49:00 Privacy vs. safety: a false choice?53:48 The case for consistent ethical frameworks57:53 Elizabeth's EIC and Identiverse talks59:49 Improv comedy and expensive hobbies1:07:25 Wrap-upKeywords: ethical IAM, digital identity ethics, IDPro, identity and access management, privacy, safety, biometrics, exclusion, Elizabeth Garber, GAIN Digital Trust, OpenID Foundation, Body of Knowledge, Ethical Canvas, zero knowledge proofs, passkeys, IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald, EIC Berlin, Identiverse
