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The Whole Marketer podcastAuthor: Abigail Dixon
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Episode 156 – Resilience with guest Drew Povey: How to build your resilience with tips and tools for leaders
Episode 156
Monday, 20 October, 2025
Episode #156. This episode of personal understanding is a skill for marketers in our ever-changing, challenging yet rewarding profession. We’re discussing resilience - not to be confused with endurance. We believe building resilience is about individuals feeling empowered to proactively put in place what they need to ensure that they have the energy and wellbeing levels to deal with day-to-day life and setbacks when they inevitably occur. Abby’s guest expert on this topic is Drew Povey, author, leadership coach and mentor with over 25 years professional experience in multi-sector, executive level leadership across a wide range of sectors including elite sport, corporate, nonprofit and government settings. Drew’s recently published book ‘When the Clouds Come: Dealing with Difficulties, Facing Your Fears, and Overcoming Obstacles’ includes his models and tools to support leaders with resilience. In this episode, Drew shares his definition of resilience, building resilience like a muscle and practical models from his book, including the “Five H’s” for effective leadership in tough times and BEST LIFE for well-being. Plus Drew’s advice for marketers of tomorrow to build their tolerance to change. 00:00:00 Welcome and Introduction to Resilience 00:01:11 Defining Resilience vs. Endurance 00:03:41 Drew Povey’s Perspective on Resilience 00:07:30 Resilience and Well-being 00:12:06 Drew Povey’s Book: When the Clouds Come 00:15:21 The Cloud Analogy 00:20:32 “BEST LIFE” Model 00:23:01 Building Resilience Like a Muscle 00:28:03 Perspective and Leadership During Change 00:33:40 The Three P’s Model for Difficult Times 00:38:10 Change as a Process, Not an Event 00:38:56 The Five H’s for Dealing with Difficulty 00:47:55 The Power of Pause in Leadership 00:51:32 Summary and Final Reflections 00:52:07 Final Advice for Marketers of Tomorrow Host: Abigail Dixon FCIM/ICF | LinkedIn Guest: Drew Povey | LinkedIn When the Clouds Come: Dealing with Difficulties, Facing Your Fears, and Overcoming Obstacles: Dealing with Difficulties, Facing Your Fears, and Overcoming Obstacles: Amazon.co.uk: Povey, Drew: 9780857089175: Books The Whole Marketer podcast is here to support and empower the people behind brands and businesses with the latest technical tools, soft and leadership skills and personal understanding for a fulfilling marketing career and life as a whole. Did you know The Whole Marketer is more than a podcast and book? We’re your trusted partners for marketing capability and transformation, providing consultancy, training & workshops, speaking, coaching, mentoring and trusted advisory service. Visit www.thewholemarketer.com to see how we support leaders to build marketing teams with the holistic skills to lead the long-term commercial agenda and deliver the true potential of marketing. Contact hello@thewholemarketer.com to get in touch with Abby and the team
