![]() |
Been There Got Out PodcastAuthor: Chris & Lisa
Chris and Lisa of BeenThereGotOut.com both survived toxic marriages with narcissistic partners and the legal and co-parenting nightmares that go hand-in-hand with all of that.If you are struggling in a high-conflict relationship, divorce, custody battle, or co-parenting hell which requires PERSONALIZED attention, let us HOLD YOUR HAND along the way, while providing EXPERT, STRATEGIC guidance based on one's years of success (representing myself in court!), coupled with the other's High Conflict Divorce Coach certification.Our podcast features interviews with lawyers, therapists, co-parenting coordinators, guardians ad litem, and other subject matter experts, as well as other content, all with one goal in mind: Let us teach you how to HELP YOURSELF! Language: en-us Genres: Education, Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Self-Improvement Contact email: Get it Feed URL: Get it iTunes ID: Get it |
Listen Now...
Can a Narcissist Change? It's Complicated!
Episode 318
Thursday, 27 November, 2025
Could personality disorders be more flexible than we think? Discover surprising insights with psychotherapist Marissa De Sa as she dismantles the misconception that personality disorders are unchangeable. Marissa's expertise in Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) reveals how our environments and early experiences shape these conditions, providing a pathway to healing and growth. You'll hear about the transformative potential of DBT beyond its roots in treating borderline personality disorder, offering hope for managing a wide range of disorders including narcissistic and obsessive-compulsive types.Marissa takes us on a journey through the structured and life-changing processes of DBT, where motivation, commitment, and dialectics play crucial roles. Dive into the core elements of DBT that help clients cultivate a "wise mind" for managing intense emotions and avoiding impulsive decisions. Through individual therapy and skills groups, clients master mindfulness, interpersonal effectiveness, distress tolerance, and emotion regulation, showcasing promising outcomes in therapy. Plus, discover the visible indicators of success that mark a client's progress and transformation.We also tackle high-conflict situations with practical strategies for effective communication. Learn how DBT's DEAR MAN technique can defuse defensiveness and reduce emotional reactivity, especially in sensitive interactions involving personality disorders or addiction. Explore powerful communication and negotiation tactics, such as those from David Burns' five secrets of effective communication, that offer solutions for high-conflict family dynamics. As we conclude, Marissa emphasizes the significance of hope and the continued conversation around mental well-being, inviting you to stay connected through the resources available at the Cognitive and Behavioral Care Center.













