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Permission to Grieve
Monday, 24 August, 2026
Rebecca Carrell Many evangelical churches have failed to give their congregants permission to grieve for their friends and loved ones who have passed away. They seem unaware of how that has hurt the spiritual and mental health of many of them. In this episode Rebecca Carrell suggests various ways that the church and even the larger American culture have done this. In her conversation with Dr. Kay Daigle, she uses scriptures to explain the biblical pattern which provides permission to grieve for all of us who don't know how to grieve well. Kay Daigle Recommended resources Learning to Lament Bible study BOW’s two-part video/podcast series on Lament with Dr. Nika Spaulding: 1- Understanding Lament and 2- Practicing Lament. Lamenting Current Events Podcast or Video with Jodie Niznik This episode is available on video as well. Timestamps: 00:21 Introductions 01:47 How are we dealing with grief overall in our Western culture? 06:56 It feels like somehow tears are bad. 09:44 What does the Bible teach us to do?16:27 Saying and doing the wrong thing with those who grieve 21:15 Viewing grief as getting in the way of happiness 22:48 Biblical pattern for dealing with grief 30:21 What would you tell someone whose spouse told them not to grieve? 32:29 Closing thoughts and resources TranscriptKay >> Hi I'm Kay Daigle of Beyond Ordinary Women Ministries. Welcome to this episode of our podcast. We are delighted today to welcome Rebecca Carrell back. Rebecca, we're so glad that you're here with us. Rebecca >> Thank you for having me. It's always such a pleasure to join you. Kay >> Oh, we love it when you come. And I'm very excited about this topic that we're going to talk about. But let me tell everybody just a little bit about you. And they can find the rest on our website if they want more information. She does have a Bachelor of Arts degree in Christian Education from Dallas Seminary, just like I do, and she is working there presently on her doctorate in education. And she is also mentoring and teaching at the seminary in Media Arts and Worship Department, as well as educational ministries and leadership department as well. You've got to be a busy person. Rebecca >> They like to keep me busy. Yeah. I'm really looking forward to post-doctoral life. Kay >> Yeah. And when will that be? When do you expect that to happen? Rebecca >> Oh, not anytime soon. I think about two years. I'm really hoping for two years. Kay >> Yeah, well, that sounds reasonable. Rebecca >> Yeah, yeah. Kay >> Well, today our topic is about grief. We are going to talk about “You have permission to grieve.” And when Rebecca suggested this is a topic, I was very excited because I believe that the way we deal with grief in today's church is not healthy for the most part, and it's widespread in our society. But it shouldn't happen in the church, is the way I feel about it. So, Rebecca, describe how we in today's Western culture deal with grief. Rebecca >> Well, Kay, about 10 or 12 years ago, probably maybe even 12 or 13 years ago, I attended a funeral. A friend of mine lost her brother and he had been in his early 40s, left behind two young children, a wife. And it was a tragedy, the way death is always a tragedy. But the circumstances surrounding his death were particularly heartbreaking. It was a drug overdose. He had struggled throughout his life and OD'd on drugs. I was at the funeral, snuck in just a little bit late, came straight from work, and as I sat down, the pastor crossed the stage, took to the podium and thundered in this loud voice that just filled up the room. He said, “We are not grieving. We are celebrating. Today we are celebrating because we know where he is.” And I knew what he was trying to do, and I knew that he was trying to encourage us, that because someone is in Christ, we don't grieve as though we have no hope but to take away the one place left in society where it's okay to a...
