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01-13-26 Mark talks with Lee Williams…you won’t believe this story!
Tuesday, 13 January, 2026
Mark and Lee cover an incredible story out of Florida as a ma finds himself facing 521 years, you read that right, 521 years because of NY’s radical AG, leticia james. (NOT capitalized by choice) This show discusses the controversial arrest and legal battle of Lawrence Michael DeFano, a self-built arms dealer, who was targeted by New York Attorney General Letitia James. Here’s a summary of the key points: Lawrence Michael DeFano’s Business and Philosophy (19:54–20:34): DeFano, known as a “ghost gunner,” sells kits for building firearms, which he states are designed to put personal firearms beyond the reach of the government. He emphasizes that “real freedom isn’t bought, it’s a self-built AK. No dealers, no forms, no registry.” Legal Actions Against DeFano (20:43–21:26, 22:50–23:07): New York Attorney General Letitia James targeted DeFano and nine other self-built arms dealers for allegedly shipping gun kits to New York. Unlike the other companies that complied and turned over customer data, DeFano refused, stating he would fight the charges. DeFano’s Arrest and Charges (21:58–22:20, 25:56–26:12): DeFano, 65, was arrested on October 10, 2025 (as stated in the video, likely 2023) by Florida Highway Patrol troopers. He faces 71 state felonies, including conspiracy and multiple counts of criminal sale of firearms, carrying a potential sentence of 521 years. Discrepancies in the Legal Process (34:02–35:22): The arrest report claims DeFano made terroristic threats in New York, which he denies, stating he was never in New York. A Florida circuit court judge, Leticia Marquez, controversially deemed the charges a “civil matter,” denying DeFano’s motions for information about the charges and a free attorney. Seizure of Assets (35:42–36:16): The ATF searched DeFano’s home, seizing 68 items, mostly handguns, gun parts, and ammunition, along with thousands in cash and $500,000 worth of gold bars. Florida Governor DeSantis’s Involvement (37:34–38:00, 39:19–39:53): On December 5th, Governor DeSantis responded to a letter from New York Governor Kathy Hochul by commanding Florida sheriffs to arrest DeFano, despite him already being in custody. The hosts express disappointment in DeSantis’s lack of public statement or support for DeFano, given his supposed Second Amendment stance. DeFano’s Resolve and Attorney’s Perspective (38:20–38:50, 40:46–41:18): DeFano remains defiant, stating he will “never turn over my customer data” and intends to fight the case, even if it means representing himself. Attorney Matt Lar Roier believes New York cannot legally drag DeFano out of Florida for actions committed in Florida under New York law and that he should not be extradited. Critique of Democratic Politicians and Media Silence (49:00–53:12): The hosts heavily criticize Democratic politicians like Leticia James and Kathy Hochul, accusing them of being “hate-filled” and pursuing a political agenda of gun confiscation. They also highlight the media’s silence on the murder of Harold Harper in Ocala, Florida, contrasting it with the attention given to other cases, implying a selective outrage based on political exploitability.
