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Duryea Financial Podcast

Author: Michael Duryea

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Episode 58 - Direct vs. Non-Direct Recognition
Thursday, 18 December, 2025

Episode SummaryIn this episode, Michael Duryea tackles one of the most heated debates in the Infinite Banking world: Direct vs. Non-Direct Recognition. There is a pervasive myth in the industry that you must use a Non-Direct Recognition policy to successfully practice Infinite Banking. Michael dispels this myth, explaining that this single policy feature should never be the sole deciding factor in choosing a life insurance company.Michael breaks down the mechanics of how dividends are handled when policy loans are outstanding, explains why the "founding father" of Infinite Banking (R. Nelson Nash) actually used Direct Recognition heavily, and lists the four critical factors that matter far more than how the company handles recognition.1. The Definitions DefinedNon-Direct Recognition: The insurance company does not adjust your dividend rate when you take a policy loan. You receive the same dividend on your entire cash value, regardless of whether it is sitting in the policy or collateralized for a loan.Direct Recognition: The company recognizes the loan and adjusts the dividend specifically on the borrowed portion of the cash value. This usually aligns the dividend closely with the loan interest rate to create a "wash."2. Busting the "Penalty" MythCritiques often claim Direct Recognition companies "punish" you for borrowing. This is demonstrably false.Fact Check: Nelson Nash, the originator of the Infinite Banking Concept, utilized Direct Recognition policies heavily. If the strategy didn't work with them, Infinite Banking wouldn't exist.Direct Recognition isn't a penalty; it is an accounting adjustment designed to manage interest rate risk.3. The Case for Direct RecognitionMichael outlines three reasons why Direct Recognition policies are excellent banking tools:Predictability: The spread between loan cost and dividend earnings is usually tighter and more predictable (a "wash"), protecting you from negative arbitrage.Higher General Dividends: Because the company isn't subsidizing borrowers across the entire pool, the general dividend on unborrowed money can sometimes be higher than competitors.Safety: In a rising interest rate environment, dividends on borrowed money in Direct Recognition policies often rise alongside loan rates, whereas Non-Direct policies might lag behind.5. What Actually Matters (The Big 4)Instead of obsessing over recognition, focus on these four pillars:Financial Strength: Has the company paid dividends consistently for over 100 years?Policy Design: Is it designed for high early cash value?Flexibility: Does it have a flexible Paid-Up Additions (PUA) rider?Long-Term Durability: Does the policy have a substantial base premium to sustain it over time? (Avoid the trap of a tiny base/huge PUA design)."The best investment in the world is the one that you understand.""If the infinite banking concept could not work with direct recognition, the concept of infinite banking itself would never have existed."Have questions about your policy design or want to learn more?Phone: 620-794-5232Email: Michael@DuryeaFinancial.com

 

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