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Zelensky Survives Second Oval Office Meeting
Tuesday, 19 August, 2025
European leaders raced to Washington to show their support for President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine as he met with President Trump on Monday.It was their first face-to-face meeting at the White House since their disastrous blowup in the Oval Office in February.Michael Schwirtz, who covers global intelligence, explains how and why Mr. Zelensky’s approach has changed.Guest: Michael Schwirtz, the global intelligence correspondent for The New York Times.Background reading: Can Mr. Zelensky trust Mr. Trump? Ukraine’s fate may depend on the answer.Mr. Zelensky and other European leaders have learned a thing or two about negotiating with Mr. Trump.For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. Photo: Doug Mills/The New York Times Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
