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184. How to Build a Premium Brand (without luck) ft. Ross Mackay
Thursday, 4 December, 2025
The 10 Minute Personal Brand Kickstart (FREE): https://the505podcast.courses/personalbrandkickstartWhat’s up Rock Nation! Today we’re joined by Ross McKay, second-time founder, brand architect, and the mind behind Cadence, the $2 sports drink built like a luxury brand.Ross previously built Daring Foods into a nine-figure company, and now he’s moving faster, smarter, and with way more edge. In this episode, he shares how to build a brand that people brag about, why speed beats capital, and what it really takes to scale from startup to shelves in Target, Walmart, and GNC.We get into why most founders focus on the wrong metrics, how to stand out in crowded categories, and why Ross thinks distribution doesn’t matter, velocity does. You’ll also hear how he hires, how he sets boundaries, and why the secret to Cadence’s success is obsession-level execution.Check out Ross here:https://www.youtube.com/ @RossMackay1 https://www.instagram.com/rossmackay/https://www.instagram.com/cadence/SUSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER: https://the505podcast.ac-page.com/rock-reportKostas' Lightroom Presetshttps://www.kostasgarcia.com/store-1/p/kglightroompresetsgreeceCOP THE BFIGGY "ESSENTIALS" SFX PACK HERE: https://courses.the505podcast.com/BFIGGYSFXPACKTimestamps: 0:00 – Intro1:14 – What Ross Is Doing Differently This Time2:50 – The Power of Saying No3:54 – Raising $150M and Losing Control4:37 – How He Kept Control at Cadence6:40 – Why He Only Raises From People He Likes7:28 – Branding That Breaks Through the Noise11:00 – Brand or Product: What Comes First?12:20 – 600 Runners Showed Up for Day One14:04 – Personal Brand Kickstart14:29 – How Ross & George Launched With $240K16:42 – Beverage vs Powder: Why They Went Hard Mode18:57 – The Exact Moment They Knew It Was Working21:11 – The Secret to Getting Repeat Customers22:53 – How Cadence Became a Fridge Trophy26:13 – Making Money at $2.50 a Can27:54 – Competing With Gatorade (Not Hipster Brands)28:44 – Why Store Count Is a Vanity Metric30:28 – Ross’s Speed Strategy for Beating Big Brands31:37 – Can You Stay Fast While Scaling?34:03 – His First Hires & Who He Looks For35:32 – Where His Relentless Drive Comes From37:43 – Building a Billion-Dollar Brand With Boundaries41:06 – Never Too High, Never Too Low41:56 – How Cadence Is Built to Scale Fast44:30 – The Real Game Behind Shelf Placement46:04 – What Happens When You Flop in Retail47:52 – Using Sales Data to Break Into Big Stores50:05 – His Pitch to Take Over Retail51:49 – Why Cadence Isn’t Just a Trendy Brand52:30 – Going Head-to-Head With Beverage Giants54:01 – How He Gets Retailers to Say Yes55:16 – Outselling 50 Brands at GNC56:22 – Why Every Retailer Gets a Unique Offer58:55 – The $2 Luxury Philosophy1:01:55 – What Your Fridge Says About You1:03:29 – How Ross Obsesses Over the Consumer1:07:20 – Why Cadence Doesn’t White Label Anything1:08:43 – This Can Is Their Best Marketing Tool1:13:28 – The Truth About Distribution Obsession1:15:51 – The Only KPI That Matters in Retail1:17:57 – You’ll Never Beat Big Brands on Capital1:21:41 – How He Makes Million-Dollar Decisions Fast1:23:52 – Speed vs Scale: Keeping the Culture Intact1:26:29 – How He Handles Pressure in High Stakes1:28:24 – Why Ross Is Gunning for a Billion in Revenue1:30:08 – Leading When Everything’s on Fire1:32:03 – Real Talk for Founders Building from Scratch1:33:06 – Post Pod DebriefIf you liked this episode please send it to a friend and take a screenshot for your story! And as always, we'd love to hear from you guys on what you'd like to hear us talk about or potential guests we should have on. DM US ON IG: (Our DM's are always open!) Bfiggy: https://www.instagram.com/bfiggy/ Kostas: https://www.instagram.com/kostasg95/ TikTok:Bfiggy: https://www.tiktok.com/bfiggy/ Kostas: https://www.tiktok.com/kostasgarcia/
