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LiberatED PodcastAuthor: Kerry McDonald
The LiberatED Podcast tells the stories of the entrepreneurial parents and teachers who are creating innovative K-12 learning options across the US and expanding education options for families. This twice-weekly podcast is hosted by Kerry McDonald, a Senior Fellow at the Foundation for Economic Education and leader of the Education Entrepreneurship Lab. A regular contributor at Forbes.com and The 74, Kerry is the bestselling author of Unschooled: Raising Curious, Well-Educated Children Outside the Conventional Classroom (Chicago Review Press, 2019), and the author of the forthcoming book, Joyful Learning: How To Find Freedom, Happiness, and Success Beyond Conventional Schooling (Hachette, 2025). She has a BA in economics from Bowdoin College and a master's degree in education policy from Harvard University. A mom of four, Kerry lives in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter at edentrepreneur.org. Language: en Genres: Education, Education for Kids, Kids & Family Contact email: Get it Feed URL: Get it iTunes ID: Get it Trailer: |
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Designing A Life—and a School—Around Family, Farm, and Forest
Episode 364
Tuesday, 23 December, 2025
In this episode of LiberatED, Kerry McDonald speaks with Talon and Travis Holleman, co-founders of Roots Farm and Forest School in Delaware. What began as a small homeschool co-op during the pandemic has grown into a thriving, nature-based learning ecosystem serving more than 1,000 students through microschool programs, homeschool enrichment, after-school offerings, and seasonal camps. Talon and Travis share their personal journey from successful corporate careers into homeschooling, and why outdoor, play-based, and community-centered education felt like the right path for their family. They walk listeners through the evolution of Roots—from deschooling their own children, to transforming a homestead into a permaculture learning space, to building a financially sustainable microschool inspired by Waldorf, Montessori, and Reggio Emilia philosophies. The conversation also explores the realities of running a school as a family business, supporting children's social-emotional growth, and planning for the future with hopes to expand into middle and high school programs. This episode is a powerful reminder that education entrepreneurship isn't just about building schools—it's about building lives rooted in purpose, connection, and joy. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at edentrepreneur.org. Kerry's latest book, Joyful Learning: How to Find Freedom, Happiness, and Success Beyond Conventional Schooling, is available now wherever books are sold!
