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Expenses | Contract 2029 SEP Education
Episode 65
Tuesday, 4 August, 2026

Welcome back to the Contract 2029 Survey Education and Poll Series. Today we are relaunching the Contract 2020 TA Education podcast on Section 3: Expenses, which was originally recorded in December 2023. Most of that conversation between NC Chair Kurt Heideman and President Jody Reven, who was the NC Chair at the time, is still true. Hopefully this will provide a thorough look at what our expenses language says today, some background and context on how we arrived at this language, and how it compares to the rest of the industry.