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Leadership Lessons from the Cockpit with Christian “Boo” Boucousis
Episode 5
Thursday, 16 July, 2026
Episode SummaryIn this episode of the Two Piers Podcast, Erica D’Eramo is joined by Christian “Boo” Boucousis, CEO of Afterburner, former fighter pilot, business founder, keynote speaker, and author of The Afterburner Advantage.Boo brings lessons from military aviation into the world of business leadership, with a focus on systems thinking, execution, reflection, and leading under pressure. In this conversation, Erica and Boo explore what it means to lead with intention, especially when the path forward is uncertain.They discuss how systems can create more freedom for leaders and teams by reducing the cognitive load of constantly reinventing the basics. Boo also shares the ORCA method, which stands for Objective, Reality, Cause, and Action, as a practical way to connect planning, reflection, and daily behavior.The conversation also touches on the difference between goals and destinations, why reflection needs to happen frequently enough to be useful, and how leaders can stay focused on what they can control while adapting to what they cannot.In This EpisodeErica and Boo discuss:How fighter pilot mental models can translate into business leadershipWhy systems can create more room for creativity, judgment, and problem-solvingThe difference between managing current operations and leading people into the unknownThe ORCA method: Objective, Reality, Cause, and ActionWhy leaders should compare perception with reality before deciding what to changeHow daily reflection can turn learning into actionThe difference between goals and destinationsWhat “flawless leadership” means in practiceHow success can create pressure, expectations, and unexpected discomfortWhy “not yet” can be a useful way to think about growth and long-term goalsThe value of looking at the environment, not just ourselves, when building awarenessKey TakeawayBoo’s final takeaway is to bring intention to two parts of your life: where you are going, and why you are not there yet.That combination captures much of the conversation. Leaders need a clear destination, but they also need a disciplined way to examine the gap between intention and reality. With regular reflection and small adjustments, teams can build momentum over time.About Christian “Boo” BoucousisChristian “Boo” Boucousis is the CEO of Afterburner, a former fighter pilot, keynote speaker, business founder, and author of The Afterburner Advantage. Through Afterburner and his broader leadership work, Boo helps leaders and teams apply fighter pilot ways of working to execution, performance, and decision-making under pressure.Connect with BooCall Me Boo: https://www.callmeboo.com/Afterburner: https://www.afterburner.com/Boo’s Afterburner speaker profile: https://www.afterburner.com/speakers/christian-boucousis/Connect with Boo on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christian-boo-boucousisFollow Boo on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/christianbooboucousis/Explore Flawless Leadership: https://www.afterburner.com/our-approach/mindset/Learn more about The Afterburner Advantage: https://www.afterburner.com/the-afterburner-advantage/More from Two PiersLearn more about Two Piers Consulting: https://www.twopiersconsulting.comBrowse podcast episodes, summaries, and transcripts: https://www.twopiersconsulting.com/podcast
