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The Inner Game of ChangeAuthor: Ali Juma
Welcome to The Inner Game of Change podcast, where we dive deep into the complexities of managing organisational change. Tailored for leaders, change practitioners, and anyone driving transformation, our episodes explore key topics like leadership, communication, change capability, and process design. Expert guests share practical strategies and insights to help you navigate and lead successful change initiatives. Listen in to learn fresh ideas and perspectives from a variety of industries, and gain the tools and knowledge you need to lead transformation with confidence. Explore our episodes at www.theinnergameofchange.com.au, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Youtube or anywhere you listen to your podcasts. Language: en-au Genres: Business, Management Contact email: Get it Feed URL: Get it iTunes ID: Get it |
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E106 - AI as a Mirror for Organisations - Podcast With Shannon Lucas
Episode 106
Friday, 17 April, 2026
Welcome to The Inner Game of Change. where we explore the thinking that shapes how change really happens. Today I am joined by Shannon Lucas.Shannon is the Co CEO of Catalyst Constellations, where she works with executive teams to close the gap between the speed of change and the speed of execution.And in this conversation, we explore what that might mean in practice.We talk about discernment. We talk about resistance as a signal. We talk about fear in the system.And we explore the reality of leading change when everything is moving at pace.One idea! AI might be acting as a kind of mirror.Reflecting how we think, how we decide, and how we design work.In simple terms, what we notice may shape what happens next.This is an episode for those navigating change in real systems.Not just designing it on paper.I am grateful to have Shannon chatting with me today. AboutI help executive teams and organizations build the muscle to transform continuously without burning out their best people or watching momentum die between initiatives.Most organizations treat transformation like a one-time event: hire consultants, launch the program, declare victory, exhaust everyone involved, then wonder why nothing sticks. I work with CEOs and C-suite leaders to break that cycle by building real change capability into how their organizations actually operate. As Co-CEO of Catalyst Constellations, I bring 20+ years of enterprise-scale innovation and transformation experience from companies like Ericsson, Cisco, and Vodafone. I’ve owned a $150M P&L, generated over $1B in new business pipeline, and learned firsthand what actually works (and what definitely doesn't) when you're trying to change how global organizations operate.My approach combines hard-won operational experience with ongoing research into how transformation really happens. I co-authored the #1 Amazon bestseller Move Fast. Break Shit. Burn Out. based on our research into Catalysts (the highly action-oriented change agents inside organizations who can't stop themselves from driving change). We wrote it after watching too many talented people flame out while trying to transform their companies without the right support or frameworks. And based on lived personal experience.I believe the organizations that will thrive are the ones that stop treating change as an event and start building the human, cultural, and structural capacity to adapt continuously. These are the firms that turn transformation into a sustained advantage rather than a recurring disruption.My mission: help make the world's largest organizations more sustainable in every sense of the word: for people, profit, and planet.Shannon’s profilelinkedin.com/in/shannonglucasWebsitecatalystconstellations.com (Company)Send us Fan MailAli Juma @The Inner Game of Change podcastFollow me on LinkedIn
