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The Lowdown on the Plus-up - A Theme Park PodcastAuthor: Kelly and Pete
Kelly McCubbin and Peter Overstreet take on all aspects of theme parks - Disneyland, Walt Disney World, Universal Studios, Islands of Adventure, Six Flags - discussing them in historical context and then finding ways, to quote Walt Disney, to "plus them up!" No considerations of safety, practicality or economic viability even remotely entertained!https://www.lowdown-plus-up.com/A Boardwalk Times Podcast https://boardwalktimes.net/ Language: en-us Genres: Places & Travel, Society & Culture Contact email: Get it Feed URL: Get it iTunes ID: Get it |
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This Hidden River Is Disneyland’s Quiet Magic | Lowdown on the Plus-Up
Episode 9
Wednesday, 24 December, 2025
EPISODE SUMMARYThe most powerful special effect at Disneyland isn’t a projection or a firework. It’s water—dyed, pumped, and choreographed to keep illusions seamless, landscapes lush, and guests grounded. In this episode, Kelly and Pete unravel the surprising, ingenious, and deeply odd engineering behind one of Disneyland’s most overlooked systems: the park-wide dark water network that connects Storybook Land, the Motorboat Cruise, the Snow White Grotto, the Adventureland Treehouse, the Jungle Cruise, and the entire Rivers of America.Along the way, we pay tribute to Rob Reiner, Gil Gerard, Bob Burns, and Imagineer Eddie Sotto. We also explore the enduring importance of Peter Renaday, original voice of Mark Twain and the first Ghost Host. This episode weaves history, engineering, Imagineering lore, and personal stories into one of the richest deep dives we’ve done yet.---⏱️ CHAPTERS00:00 Intro 02:00 Remembering Rob Reiner, Gil Gerard & Bob Burns 09:45 Tribute to Imagineer Eddie Sotto 12:30 What Is Disneyland’s “Dark Water System”? 14:50 How the Water Flows (Storybook Land → Motorboat Cruise → Matterhorn → Snow White Grotto → Carnation Creek → Adventureland → Jungle Cruise → Rivers of America) 32:10 Jungle Cruise Waterfalls & Mosquito Abatement 38:30 Swiss Family Treehouse / Adventureland Treehouse Water Loop 45:20 The Truth About “Well #1” (137 feet, not 1300 feet) 56:00 Riding the Mark Twain & the peaceful design of the river 01:06:00 Peter Renaday – Mark Twain, Ghost Host & Disney legend ---🔍 KEYWORDSDisneyland dark water, Rivers of America engineering, Storybook Land water system, Motorboat Cruise, Snow White Grotto waterfall, Carnation Creek, Plaza Gardens, Adventureland water channel, Jungle Cruise ecosystem, Mark Twain riverboat, Peter Renaday ghost host, Eddie Sotto, Bob Burns, Rob Reiner, Gil Gerard, Disneyland engineering, Imagineering history, Disneyland plumbing system---📎 REFERENCESE-Ticket Magazine #18 – Jansen Brothers (Dark Water System) Kelly's Article About Frontierland and the False History of the American West - https://boardwalktimes.net/we-need-to-talk-about-frontierland-ad54b31a1fe1---🎧 FOLLOW USApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-lowdown-on-the-plus-up-a-theme-park-podcast/id1737456626 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3PEPHJQk2t8TQON1mzJHWRYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsUeUre1Atv5XRqr4CX1R2s1TVCAz7jvL Boardwalk Times: https://boardwalktimes.net#ThemeParkPodcast #DisneylandHistory #ImagineeringThanks for listening!We'd love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They're really helpful. And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we've talked about! We'd love to tell them on the air.Come visit us on Bluesky, Mastodon, Instagram, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you'll probably find us. Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up! We are a Boardwalk Times production.Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .
