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The Immense Hauntology of Things with Lee Morgan
Episode 41
Wednesday, 24 December, 2025
I sometimes wonder why, of all the occult and magical currents we have on offer, Witchcraft manages to still have such a powerful pull on our contemporary culture. We find ourselves on the other side of a century of occult revivals and magical trends, and yet Witchcraft somehow stil retains a timeless appeal. More recent spiritual trends, such as the "New Age" movement, which you would expect to be a better gateway for contemporary Western people to explore spirituality, have aesthetically aged far worse than Witchcraft generally, and what once appeared modern and enlightened would now be better described as cringe. Similarly, Chaos Magic – with its having its cake and eating it to, non-commital metaphysics and whiff of the science-y – would seem to be the heir apparent to the most accessible form of magical engagement for the Western mind, but looking at the numbers: the domination of "WitchTok" in magical social media landscape, and the non-existence of a "CaoteTok" paints a pretty clear picture of the respective crossover appeal. The assumption that Chaos Magic would grow in popularity to become the magic trend of the future is similar to the presumption that "prog rock" would go on to top the Billboard charts in perpetuity from its inception. If you take a look at the ideas disseminated on WitchTok you'll run into plenty of New Age thought and Chaos Magic, but they have become subsumed under the cloak of Witchcraft. I think a key to understanding Witchcraft's enduring popularity in the modern era lies in Jacques Derrida's concept of "hauntology." Hauntology describes the ways in which the past continues to haunt us in the present. It is somehow both a nostalgic and eerie feeling that Derrida said could be summed up most susinctly by Hamlet's line, "the time is out of joint." As our relationships, and media landscape, and ways of interacting with the world become increasingly less tangible, it's only natural that we would yearn for a more embodied way of engaging. In smaller ways we crave the experience of a time when our own lives were simpler, which is why music and fashion trends seem to be perpetually looking back twenty years. The writer Mark Fischer observed an effect that he called the "Slow Cancellation of the Future," where this nostalgia for a generation before, this desire to relive a memory of a simpler time, has caught us in a perpetual cultural time warp where novelty and innovation in the realms of art and media are rapidly decreasing, all while technology advances exponentially around us. If my generation is so nostalgic for the 80's of our youths that we largely consume media that calls back to it, will our children be nostalgic for the era we're living through today or for the 1980s, and then what about their kids? When we look back, what are we looking for? I think we are seeking meaning in the tangibility of the past that we no longer experience in our daily lives today. In many ways, this "slow cancellation of the future" has left us in a vacant pastiche, and so we have to look back even further. We start to crave the kind of activities that make us feel more human – maybe you take up bread baking, or exercising with kettlebells, or making beef tallow lotion. This same impulse, I think, is just as present in our spiritual lives. And hence, the timeless appeal of Witchcraft. The expression of magic that, as far back as you go, in all of its iterations, has always felt even older. In Lee Morgan's latest book, The Rag and Bone Man, they explore the enduring influence of the Victorian Age, and the ways its novel approaches to the spirit world are still haunting us in the present day. Lee describes our attraction to this time as being related in many ways to its very substance, where, as they describe it: "Our modern witchcraft ladders get started. Through stealing the Fat from the previous era (one that still exists inside us in the presence of our own great-grandparents), we can nourish ourselves here in this one." In Lee's new book, they weave together academic research, poetic fiction, and embodied practice to bring the Victorian era's ecstatic hunger for a new kind of spiritual experience into tactile relief. Here we, just like the Rag and Bone Man of his time, can "steal the fat" from the discards of the past, and deepen our own practices. Also, a friendly reminder that you can tune in to our extended conversation on Patreon, where we talk about the nature of being in diaspora as a magical practitioner, the ways that Lee's practice has evolved since they first started writing, and the "slow cancellation of the future." SHOW NOTES: Order the Book: The Rag and Bone Man Lee's Website: Leemorganbooks.com Lee's Patreon: Lee Morgan
