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AI in Law Practice
Thursday, 17 September, 2026
Lorraine McGowen brings us today’s podcast from the City Bar’s Presidential Task Force on Artificial Intelligence and Digital Technologies. The discussion covers expanding legal use cases (research, drafting, due diligence, e-discovery, deposition and hearing prep, judicial chambers), ROI concerns due to verification burdens, and persistent hallucination risks. Panelists emphasize “trust nothing and verify everything,” including checking citations, quotations, and whether law remains good. We review ethics and court-rule developments (New York Part 161; proposed California SB 574), sanctions trends, confidentiality and privilege risks from public AI tools, client restrictions and protocol controls, record retention and supervision frameworks, international implications such as the EU AI Act’s risk categories and penalties, and the need for AI literacy and ongoing training. Lorraine McGowen is Co-Chair of City Bar’s Task Force and a Partner at Orrick, Herrington and Sutcliffe. She is joined by these experts in the field: Maura Grossman – Research Professor, School of Computer Science, University of Waterloo David Keyko – Partner, Pillsbury, Winthrop, Shaw, Pittman Sabina Ahmed Leconte – Head of Legal and Chief Compliance Officer, the Americas, ICBC Standard Bank Group Adele Hogan – Partner, Hogan Law Associates Ann Heo – Co-Chief of Discovery Compliance and Litigation Unit and Chief of the Prescription Drug Investigations Unit, Officer of the Special Narcotics Prosecutor for the City of New York Kristin Baylis – Senior Technology Counsel, Orrick 00:00 Why AI Matters Now 03:08 Meet the Expert Panel 05:56 AI Use Cases Explosion 08:36 ROI and Productivity Wins 10:23 Hallucinations and Prompting 12:16 Will Hallucinations Disappear 13:38 Training and Trial Sim Tools 15:07 Ethics Rules and Sanctions 23:03 Court Orders and Disclosures 25:34 International Impact EU AI Act 34:59 Client Disclosure and Engagements 37:43 Firm Protocols and Controls 43:08 Technical Guardrails for Clients 45:45 AI Disclosure Duties 46:47 Joint Defense Protocols 47:49 Public Tools Pitfalls 51:23 Enterprise Versus Public 53:44 Transactional Verification 01:03:39 Litigation AI Sensitivities 01:08:18 Confidentiality Guardrails 01:14:58 Agentic AI Vendor Risks 01:20:09 In House Versus Firms 01:27:24 Key Takeaways Closing











