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Institutional-grade yield on USD, BTC, and Gold?
Episode 640
Monday, 13 April, 2026

In this episode, host Sebastian Couture is joined by Torab, CEO of Move Industries, to discuss the tension of radical transparency and the decision to scrap Movement's complex L2 architecture in favor of a sovereign L1 powered by the Move VM. He explains how this transition drastically reduced latency and AWS infrastructure costs while improving the builder experience.The conversation explores Movement's core thesis: "Move is for Money". Torab argues that general-purpose L1s are becoming saturated and that Movement's true product-market fit lies in the Global South, serving nations battling currency devaluation. They discuss the implementation of AI agents for continuous security auditing, the "Move Alliance" for ecosystem financial alignment, and why the industry must move past "decentralization theater" to offer pragmatic, yield-bearing stablecoin products to users who actually need them. Finally, Torab teases the upcoming roadmap, including institutional-grade yield on USD, BTC, and Gold. Topics00:00 Intro & Context04:15 The Movement Turnaround09:30 Why Movement Pivoted15:00 The Move VM & Overcoming Developer Friction21:45 AI Agents for 24/7 Security Audits27:10 The Global South35:20 Currency Devaluation & The Demand for Stablecoins42:15 The Move Alliance49:00 Pragmatism vs. Decentralization 55:30 Roadmap: Bringing Yield to USD, BTC, and GoldEpisode LinksTorab on X: https://x.com/utorabyouMovement: https://movementnetwork.xyz/NEAR: https://near.ai/Sponsors:NEAR AI Cloud now lets developers deploy OpenClaw—the rapidly growing open-source AI agent platform—inside Trusted Execution Environments, providing hardware-level encryption with cryptographic attestations. With OpenClaw on NEAR AI Cloud, you can run agents with cloud convenience, but without traditional cloud data exposure. No hardware to manage. No trust assumptions required. Learn more at near.ai.