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Second in Command: The Chief Behind the Chief with Cameron HeroldThe World's Leading Network for the 2nd in Command Author: Second in Command with Cameron Herold
Welcome to the Second in Command Podcast hosted by Cameron Herold, brought to you by the COO Alliance, where top-level COOs share their insights, tactics, and strategies that made them the Chief Behind the Chief. Cameron Herold founded the COO Alliance with one simple goal in mind: to provide COOs with the same professional development and growth opportunities CEOs have enjoyed for many years. COO Alliance is the world's leading network for the Second in Command. Cameron Herold is a top business consultant, best-selling author, and speaker. Hes the mastermind behind hundreds of companies exponential growth and hes touched thousands of businesses indirectly through his work. Language: en Genres: Business, Entrepreneurship, Management Contact email: Get it Feed URL: Get it iTunes ID: Get it |
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Ep. 552 - Melone Hatley P.C. COO Dan Cuneo - How Smart Ops Leaders Really Dominate New Markets
Tuesday, 10 February, 2026
Struggling to scale your law firm or lead expert teams without burning out or losing your edge? You’re not alone. In this episode, Cameron Herold brings you an unfiltered, radically honest conversation with Dan Cuneo, CEO of Melone Hatley. Dan reveals the surprising truth behind law firm growth, why lawyers love culture but hate change, and the communication systems driving results in a multi-office, 100+ employee business.What does it really take to compete, attract talent, and thrive when AI, client demand, and team alignment keep shifting? Get the inside playbook, raw stories, and proven systems to finally build sustainable scale, without sacrificing humanity or profit. Listen now, because the biggest risks are waiting, hoping, and copying what every other law firm is already doing. This episode delivers exclusive, actionable strategies that win with today’s top talent and future-proof your firm.Timestamped Highlights[00:00] – The one business skill most lawyers are missing (and why it holds firms back)[04:10] – How Melone Hatley picks winning markets and why they avoid the “big city trap”[07:25] – Recruiting smart attorneys: drive vs. ambition, culture fit vs. pure skill[10:54] – Topgrading and the secrets to high-impact, low-turnover legal hiring[13:21] – Can a non-lawyer run law firm ops? Why Dan says “it depends,” and what really matters[15:31] – From band-aids to sustainable hires: scaling up, alignment, and culture that actually sticks[17:15] – The silent killer: how misalignment eats into growth (and what to do about it)[20:18] – The real impact of AI in law: opportunity, risk, and what Dan refuses to automate[25:26] – Marketing channels that don’t work anymore and how Dan finds blue ocean opportunitiesAbout the GuestDan Cuneo is the CEO of Melone Hatley, a rapidly scaling multi-state family law and estate planning firm known for its aggressive, people-first approach to talent and market expansion. With 100+ team members across multiple offices, Dan is a rare law firm leader who combines litigation experience with a relentless business-building mindset. He’s a TEDx speaker, champion of culture-first leadership, and a voice for operational innovation in a tradition-resistant industry.🔗 LinkedIn | WebsiteMentioned ResourcesTopgrading (hiring methodology)Scaling Up (business operating system)EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System)Next Level GrowthGoogle Ads / PPCGeofencing marketing
