Business Trip

Author: Greg Kubin & Matias Serebrinsky

Business Trip explores the frontiers of brain and mental health. Each episode features founders, investors, and researchers in psychedelics, neurotechnology, neurometabolism, precision medicine, digital therapeutics, novel modalities, and more. 
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Rick Perry on paving the way for Ibogaine in America
Episode 71
Friday, 19 December, 2025

Greg interviews Rick Perry, the former Governor of Texas and former U.S. Secretary of Energy and leading advocate for ibogaine, live at the Real Summit.In this episode, we discuss:How a former Texas governor moved from strict opposition to drugs to becoming a leading advocate for ibogaine after firsthand experience and veteran outcomes.Ibogaine’s impact on PTSD, opioid addiction, and traumatic brain injury, including Stanford-linked brain imaging data showing functional and structural improvement.How veterans are the proving ground that enabled Texas to commit $50M in public funding for ibogaine clinical trials.Why ibogaine requires intensive medical supervision and why rigorous trials are essential for legitimacy and scale.A vision where ibogaine reshapes addiction treatment, veteran care, and eventually criminal justice and homelessness policy.Credits:Created by Greg Kubin and Matias SerebrinskyHost: Greg KubinProduced by Caitlin Ner & Nico V. Rey Find us at businesstrip.fm and psymed.venturesFollow us on Instagram and Twitter!Theme music by Dorian LoveAdditional Music: Distant Daze by Zack Frank