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Trump's Department of Education Says Accountants Aren't Professionals
Episode 464
Monday, 8 December, 2025

Are accountants no longer “professionals”? We unpack the DOE proposal that could slash grad loan limits—and what AICPA/NASBA plans to do about it. Plus: Deloitte’s AI-made citations, EY’s audit turnaround, PwC’s end‑to‑end AI audit ambitions, and OpenAI’s circular investment into accounting rollups. We also cover Xero’s new auto‑reconcile, Intuit’s small‑biz data ad play, and two practical wins: Google’s shared inboxes and unexpected networking tactics for landing that first job.SponsorsCloud Accountant Staffing - http://accountingpodcast.promo/casACFE - http://accountingpodcast.promo/acfeOnPay - http://accountingpodcast.promo/onpayChapters(00:00) - Introduction and Podcast Overview (00:44) - Headline: Accountants No Longer Professionals? (02:18) - Department of Education's Proposal and Reactions (03:50) - Implications for Accounting Students and Professionals (09:28) - Deloitte's AI Work Swap Controversy (12:46) - EY's Audit Quality Improvements (20:56) - Economic Update: Tariffs and Job Market (34:02) - Circular AI Investments: A Closer Look (36:31) - AI Tools for Accountants: New Features (39:32) - Xero's New Pricing and AI Policies (49:13) - PWC's AI-Driven Audit Automation (52:39) - Google Workspace Shared Inboxes (55:49) - Dissolution of the Department of Government Efficiency (56:47) - Career Networking Tips for Accountants (01:01:16) - Outsourcing Talent: A Global Perspective Show NotesDepartment of Education Accounting Professional Degree Classificationhttps://www.newsweek.com/full-list-degrees-professional-trump-administration-11085695 Accountants Inexplicably Deemed "Not Professional" Under OBBBA Student Loan Rules https://www.goingconcern.com/accountants-inexplicably-deemed-not-professional-under-obba-student-loan-rules/ Department of Education Unclassifies Accounting as a Professional Degree https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2025/11/24/department-of-education-unclassifies-accounting-as-a-professional-degree/173875/ Deloitte allegedly cited AI-generated research in a million-dollar report for a Canadian provincial government https://fortune.com/2025/11/25/deloitte-caught-fabricated-ai-generated-research-million-dollar-report-canada-government/ Major N.L. healthcare report contains errors likely generated by A.I. https://theindependent.ca/news/lji/major-n-l-healthcare-report-contains-errors-likely-generated-by-a-i/ N.L. asks Deloitte to carry out review after 'incorrect' citations found in $1.6M provincial health planhttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/nl-deloitte-citations-9.6990216 OpenAI's investment into Thrive Holdings is its latest circular deal https://techcrunch.com/2025/12/01/openais-investment-into-thrive-holdings-is-its-latest-circular-deal/ Thrive-backed accounting firm Crete to spend $500 million in AI roll-up https://finance.yahoo.com/news/thrive-backed-accounting-firm-crete-130200467.html Crete PA plans $500 million spend to buy and upgrade accounting firms with AI https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/crete-pa-plans-500-million-spend-to-buy-and-upgrade-firms-with-ai OpenAI takes an ownership stake in Thrive Holdings to accelerate enterprise AI adoption https://openai.com/index/thrive-holdings/ Trump Tariffs: The Economic Impact of the Trump Trade War https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/trump-tariffs-trade-war/ IEEPA Tariffs Are Down from April Threatshttps://taxfoundation.org/blog/ieepa-tariffs-rates-down-april-threats/Intuit SMB MediaLabs Audiences Now Available on The Trade Desk Platform https://investors.intuit.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1288/intuit-smb-medialabs-audiences-now-available-on-the-trade-desk-platform-connecting-advertisers-with-small-and-mid-market-businesses Intuit SMB MediaLabs | Advertising Networkhttps://medialabs.intuit.com/Need CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comGet in TouchThanks for listening and the great reviews! We appreciate you! Follow and tweet @BlakeTOliver and @DavidLeary. Find us on Facebook and Instagram. If you like what you hear, please do us a favor and write a review on Apple Podcasts or Podchaser. Call us and leave a voicemail; maybe we'll play it on the show. DIAL (202) 695-1040.SponsorshipsAre you interested in sponsoring The Accounting Podcast? For details, read the prospectus.Need Accounting Conference Info? Check out our new website - accountingconferences.comLimited edition shirts, stickers, and other necessitiesTeePublic Store: http://cloudacctpod.link/merchSubscribeApple Podcasts: http://cloudacctpod.link/AppleP...