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Token governance that actually works with Paul Glavin
Thursday, 13 November, 2025

Dennison (Tally CEO & Co-founder) sits down with Paul Glavin, founder of Gardens V2, to discuss why veTokens became "the most embarrassing legacy of DAOs" and what actually works in governance coordination. They explore conviction voting as an alternative mechanism, the gap between governance theory and trench reality, and why streaming tokens might be the most underrated innovation in DAO tooling.---Read Paul's article "It's Time to Lock veTokens Away Forever"Learn more about GardensFollow Paul on XFollow Tally on XFollow Dennison on XStart building with Tally---Disclaimer: The information provided in this podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, financial, or investment advice.All opinions expressed by hosts, guests, and contributors are solely their own and do not reflect the views of any affiliated organizations.While we strive to provide accurate and up-to-date information, governance mechanisms and blockchain technology are constantly evolving. You should not rely solely on the information discussed in this podcast when making decisions.We encourage listeners to consult qualified legal or financial professionals before making any decisions related to cryptocurrency, governance mechanisms, or DAO participation.This podcast does not promote, endorse, or recommend the buying, selling, or holding of any digital asset or participation in any specific governance protocol.By listening, you agree that the hosts, guests, and producers are not responsible for any losses, damages, or legal consequences that may result from your actions.