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#564 - VO - Mati Staniszewski - ElevenLabs - “Humans were never meant to write, but to speak.”
Episode 564
Saturday, 5 September, 2026

Retrouvez l'épisode en version française ici : https://www.gdiy.fr/podcast/mati-staniszewski-vf/ElevenLabs is an iceberg.People think it’s a startup that uses AI to generate voices, but that’s actually just the tip of the iceberg.Voice agents that can recreate the voices of throat cancer patients so they can say their wedding vows, identify signs of Parkinson’s in your voice years before a diagnosis, and above all...a staggeringly complex system of gears, invisible to the user.The thesis of Mati, its founder, is simple: writing is not the natural language of humans.Keyboards, screens, and the interfaces we’ve been using for 30 years are historical anomalies on the verge of disappearing.Just four years after its founding, ElevenLabs is already valued at over $11 billion, with $600 million in ARR and a team of more than 600 people.A European company that wants to remain European in a sector dominated by Americans.In this episode, we pull out all the stops:Why voice will become the primary interface between humans and machinesWhat ElevenLabs really does: agents, healthcare, education, IP, data sovereigntyWhy Mati has placed an engineer on every non-technical teamThe role of humans in a world where 80% of code is already written by machinesAnd even if this hasn’t piqued your curiosity, you MUST listen to it.It’s essential for understanding where we’re headed and, above all, how to take action right now before it’s too late…You can contact Mati on LinkedIn, X, and Instagram.TIMELINE:00:00:00 : Mati’s first lines of code and the early days of ElevenLabs00:10:57 : His previous experiences at BlackRock and Palantir00:18:45 : Leaving Poland at age 18 and discovering his ambitions00:26:35 : How AI that speaks works00:35:42 : Giving a voice back to people who have lost theirs00:40:01 : Breaking down language barriers00:48:28 : Humans aren’t meant to write, but to speak00:54:03 : The end of screens?00:59:35 : Fused or cascaded agents: the real trade-off01:15:30 : What BlackRock and Palantir taught him—and what’s changing in 202601:24:37 : The platform, enterprise clients, and the business model01:32:15 : The role of humans in a world of AI agents01:39:31 : How to put AI to work in education01:47:43 : Darth Vader, Epic Games, and growing pains01:53:29 : Passing the Turing test and staying EuropeanWe referred to previous GDIY episodes : #553 - Paul Frambot - Morpho - Briser le cartel bancaire avec 600 lignes de code#543 - Yann Le Cun - AMI Labs - Rendre l'IA plus humaine#507 - Laurent Alexandre - Auteur - Vers la fin des études supérieures ?#397 - Yann Le Cun - Chief AI Scientist chez Meta - L'Intelligence Artificielle Générale ne viendra pas de Chat GPT#354 - Alex Bouaziz - Deel - Fonder discrètement une décacorne valorisée à 12 milliards de dollars, pour devenir le plus gros DRH du monde#343 - Jonathan Cherki - Contentsquare - Tout faire à 400% et fonder la référence de la French Tech valorisée à plus de $5MDS#327 - Laurent Alexandre - Auteur - ChatGPT & IA : "Dans 6 mois, il sera trop tard pour s'y intéresser"#165 - Laurent Alexandre - Doctissimo - La nécessité d'affirmer ses idéesA few recent episodes in English : #542 - VO - Yoni Assia - eToro - “AI Will Replace Most Traders in 18 Months”#513 - VO - Jesper Brodin - IKEA - 40 billion in revenue empire with no bank loan#500 - VO - Reid Hoffman - LinkedIn, Paypal - How to master humanity’s most powerful invention#487 - VO - Anton Osika - Lovable - Internet, Business, and AI: Nothing Will Ever Be the Same Again#475 - VO - Shane Parrish - Farnam Street - Clear Thinking: The Decision-Making Expert#473 - VO - Brian Chesky - Airbnb - « We're just getting started »#452 - VO - Reid Hoffman - LinkedIn, Paypal - L’humanité 2.0 : Homo technicus plus qu’Homo sapiens#437 - James Dyson - Dyson - “Failure is more exciting than success”#431 - Sean Rad - Tinder - How the swipe fever took over the worldWe spoke about :ElevenLabsCopernicus High SchoolBlackrockPalantirWhisprFlowDarth Vader in FortniteThe woman who lost her voice before her weddingThe Turing testThe ElevenLabs blogReading Recommendations :Dune, de Frank Herbert 🇫🇷Dune, by Frank Herbert 🇬🇧The Ascent of Man, by Jacob Bronowski 🇬🇧A huge THANK YOU to our sponsors : Squarespace : https://squarespace.com/doitQonto: https://qonto.com/r/2i7tk9 Brevo: brevo.com/doit eToro: https://bit.ly/3GTSh0k Payfit: payfit.com Club Med : clubmed.frCuure : https://cuure.com/product-onely You'll find the full list of gear we use to record our episodes on this page.Interested in sponsoring Generation Do It Yourself or proposing a partnership ? Contact my label Orso Media through this form.Hébergé par Audiomeans. Visitez audiomeans.fr/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.