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Long-form conversations about data visualisation design

Author: Andy Kirk

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S6E4 - Cole Nussbaumer Knaflic & Mike Cisneros
Episode 4
Wednesday, 26 November, 2025

Welcome to episode 4 of season 6 of Explore Explain, a long-form video and podcast series all about data visualisation design. I am delighted to welcome Cole Nussbaumer Knaflic, Founder & CEO of Storytelling With Data, and Mike Cisneros, a Data Storyteller and colleague of Cole's. In this episode we explore the story behind their new book, also co-authored with Alex Velez, titled 'Before & After', showcasing 20 case studies of data visualisation makeover designs. As well as listening to this show, you can watch the video of this conversation. Head over to Youtube and visit the Explore Explain channel.