Leaders with Joseph Cass

Author: S&P Global Ratings

Welcome to Leaders, a podcast featuring long-form conversations with senior investors, CEOs, and entrepreneurs on topics that matter most to the investment community. In each episode, Joe Cass, Senior Director at S&P Global Ratings, explores market trends, investment outlooks, and personal stories from industry trailblazers. Listen now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon Music, and Deezer. This podcast series was formerly known as Fixed Income in 15.
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Goldman Sachs: From Intern To International Co-CEO
Wednesday, 1 April, 2026

Joe Cass sits down with Kunal Shah, Co-CEO of Goldman Sachs International & Global Co-Head of FICC, to unpack the surprising story behind becoming one of the firm's youngest-ever Managing Directors at 27—and what that experience taught him about performance, mentorship, and taking the right risks at the right time. Timestamps: 00:00 – 5:08 Becoming the youngest ever MD at Goldman Sachs 5:08 – 7:06 Day in the life of a Co-CEO 7:06 – 9:48 Goldman Sachs client concerns on AI 9:48 – 10:25 Goldman Sachs internal AI platform 10:25 – 12:51 How to build successful relationships 12:51 – 16:00 How does Goldman Sachs use credit ratings? 16:00 – 17:45 Day in the life on an EM trading desk at Goldman Sachs 17:45 = 19:37 Phycological impact of financial trading 19:37 – 21:33 Teaching new traders at Goldman Sachs 21:33 – 22:23 Hedge funds looking at Drama graduates 22:23 – 24:07 What do people assume about working at Goldman Sachs that isn't true? 24:07 – 26:13 What is EMPower? 26:13 – 27:19 Kunal's view of Industry TV series and Wall Street movies 27:19 Kunal's alternative career path