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Curious Minds at WorkAuthor: Gayle Allen
Want to get better at work? At managing others? Managing yourself? Gayle Allen interviews experts who take your performance to the next level. Each episode features a book with insights to help you achieve your goals. Language: en-us Genres: Arts, Books, Science, Social Sciences Contact email: Get it Feed URL: Get it iTunes ID: Get it |
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CM 325: Donna Jackson Nakazawa on How to Outwit Your Inner Defeatist
Saturday, 8 August, 2026
Most of us ruminate. We get caught in a loop of thoughts that replay over and over again. It’s as if our brain is stuck in a place we don’t want to be, yet we can’t break free. Over time, those repetitive thoughts can become the lens through which we see ourselves, other people, and the world—and that lens is often shaped more by fear than reality. Donna Jackson Nakazawa can help us break the cycle. An award-winning science journalist, Donna is the author of Mind Drama: The Science of Rumination and How to Outwit Your Inner Defeatist. She spent years talking with researchers and clinicians to understand why we ruminate—and, more importantly, how we can shift from negative rumination toward creativity, curiosity, and growth. Donna shares practical tools I’m already putting into practice. This is a book I’ll return to again and again. Episode Links Are You Processing Your Emotions or Just Ruminating How to Escape a Thought Spiral Understanding Why We Get Lost in Thought Spiraling The Team Learn more about host, Gayle Allen, and producer, Rob Mancabelli, here. Support the Podcast If you like the show, please rate and review it on iTunes or wherever you subscribe, and tell a friend or family member about the show. Subscribe Click here and then scroll down to see a sample of sites where you can subscribe.












