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Lunch with JamieAuthor: Jamie Patricof
Lunch isn't just the second meal of the day. It's a time for congregating and conversing. Film producer Jamie Patricof is doing just that with his podcast series, Lunch with Jamie. Join Jamie and as he sits with thought leaders to discuss politics, current events, food, culture, sports and more.To access more interesting conversations with thought leaders, and to attend future live and virtual events, subscribe to the paid tier on Substack: https://www.jamieslist.com/subscribeFor more food, politics, and culture thoughts, sign up for the Jamie's List newsletter at www.jamieslist.comProduced by Jamie Patricof & Michaela SullivanCover art by Young Professionals, LLCPost-production by CastriaOpening theme "Circle of Success" by Maker Language: en Contact email: Get it Feed URL: Get it iTunes ID: Get it Trailer: |
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The Opposite of Poverty Is Justice — Bryan Stevenson on America’s Moral Reckoning
Episode 28
Thursday, 15 January, 2026
This week we are re-releasing our conversation with Bryan Stevenson from 2020. Bryan Stevenson is the founder of the Equal Justice Initiative and one of the most influential voices on justice, race, and moral reckoning in America today.Stevenson traces his personal journey from growing up in the Jim Crow South to defending individuals on death row, unpacking how America’s legal system has long treated people “better if you’re rich and guilty than if you’re poor and innocent.” He explains why true justice requires more than laws—it requires truth-telling, proximity to suffering, narrative change, hope, and the courage to do uncomfortable things.This conversation explores:Why America has never fully confronted the legacy of slavery, lynching, segregation, and racial terrorHow storytelling, film, and culture shape — and can repair — our collective moral narrativeThe difference between policy fixes and moral repairWhy hopelessness is the enemy of justiceWhat real accountability and repair could look like in AmericaThe role creators, artists, and leaders play in shaping the future of justiceStevenson also shares unforgettable personal stories—from confronting racial humiliation in courtrooms to moments of unexpected reconciliation at lynching sites—that illuminate what justice looks like when truth is finally acknowledged.This is not a conversation about politics.It’s a conversation about moral responsibility, historical truth, and the future we are choosing to build.If you care about justice, storytelling, leadership, or the soul of America—this is an essential listen.Only members of Jamie's List get to join me on zoom to get exclusive access during these conversations. You can apply here - https://www.jamieslist.com/upgrade
