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Trends with FriendsAuthor: Howard Lindzon
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Google vs OpenAI: Code Red, Gemini, and the AI Arms Race
Tuesday, 9 December, 2025
The gang is back for a “Code Red” episode of Trends With Friends.Howard is joined by regulars Michael Parekh and Roy Rubin to unpack the real state of the AI wars: Google vs OpenAI, Apple’s quiet dominance at the edge, Amazon’s under-the-radar AI position, and why Tesla’s FSD might be the new definition of luxury.They go deep on:Why there’s now a “code red” inside OpenAI after Google’s Gemini pushHow Google’s distribution edge (Search, Chrome, Android, YouTube) changes the AI gameRoy’s real-world shift from ChatGPT power user → Gemini everyday userThe uncomfortable truth about OpenAI’s business model and subscription fragilityWhy Apple and Amazon may actually be the least appreciated AI winnersHow Tesla FSD and Waymo redefine “the edge” and what luxury means (time)The coming battle over AI agents in e-commerce, Shopify/Magento, and who owns the customerWhy prediction markets (Kalshi, Polymarket, etc.) might be the new media layer over news & politicsIf you care about where AI, big tech, and commerce are really going over the next 2–3 years — not just the hype — this is the episode.Google vs OpenAI “code red” momentGemini vs ChatGPT and how users are actually behavingApple’s AI moat at the edge (iPhone, iOS, App Store, Siri)Amazon, AWS, and agentic AI for enterprises & e-commerceTesla FSD, Waymo and autonomy as a time-saving utilityAgentic commerce: AI shopping vs merchant-owned funnelsShopify, Magento, marketplaces, and AI as a new distribution layerPrediction markets (Kalshi, Polymarket) as a new form of media🔢 Chapters00:00 – Welcome to “Trends With Friends: Code Red”01:20 – Roy Rubin intro: Magento, Adobe, and R-Squared Ventures03:00 – Magento’s origin story and the open-source e-commerce era05:30 – From Google’s 2017 transformer paper to today’s AI “code red”09:00 – Google’s TPUs, vertical stack and long-game vs OpenAI12:40 – Roy’s behavior shift: from hourly ChatGPT user to barely opening it16:00 – Usage data, code red at OpenAI & the fragility of subscription revenue18:30 – Ads, incentives, and the “one right answer” problem in AI search21:00 – Apps, agents, and why OpenAI may be crowding out its own ecosystem24:30 – Apple’s AI position: distribution, devices, and Siri’s next act28:00 – Google vs Apple vs Android: ecosystems, habits & where AI really lives31:30 – Browsers, AI search, and why no one downloads new browsers anymore36:00 – Grok on X: nice integration, but will it change user behavior?37:20 – Tesla FSD as the new luxury: time is better than leather; Waymo vs Tesla41:45 – Google, China, Nvidia, and who had to “kiss the ring”42:50 – Amazon & AWS: agents, chips and why they’re underrated in AI46:20 – Anthropic’s enterprise focus and cleaner business model49:45 – Commerce reality check: why AI front-ends are still “all noise”51:40 – Shopify, Magento, walled gardens and agentic commerce54:20 – Prediction markets as a new media layer on top of news56:00 – Final takeaways & what to watch over the next 2–3 yearsDisclaimer: All opinions expressed on this show are solely the opinions of the hosts’ and guests’ and do not reflect the opinions of Stocktwits, Inc. or its affiliates. The hosts are not SEC or FINRA registered advisors or professionals. The content of this show is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Please consult with your financial advisor before making any investment decision. Read the full terms & conditions here: https://stocktwits.com/about/legal/terms/
