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ABA on TapAuthor: Mike Rubio, BCBA & Dan Lowery, BCBA (co-Hosts) & Suzanne Juzwik, BCBA (Producer)
The ABA podcast, crafted for BCBAs, RBTs, OBMers, and ABA therapy business owners, that serves up Applied Behavior Analysis with a twist!A podcast for BCBAs, RBTs, fieldwork trainees, related service professionals, parents, and ABA therapy business ownersTaking Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) beyond the laboratory and straight into real-world applications, ABA on Tap is the BCBA podcast that breaks down behavior science into engaging, easy-to-digest discussions. Hosted by Mike Rubio (BCBA), Dan Lowery (BCBA), and Suzanne Juzwik (BCBA, OBM expert), this ABA podcast explores everything from Behavior Analysis, BT and RBT training, BCBA supervision, the BACB, fieldwork supervision, Functional Behavior Assessments (FBA), OBM, ABA strategies, the future of ABA therapy, behavior science, ABA-related technology, including machine learning, artificial intelligence (AI), virtual learning or virtual reality, instructional design, learning & development, and cutting-edge ABA interventionsall with a laid-back, pub-style atmosphere.Whether you're a BCBA, BCBA-D, BCaBA, RBT, Behavior Technician, Behavior Analyst, teacher, parent, related service professional, ABA therapy business owner, or OBM professional, this podcast delivers science-backed insights on human behavior with humor, practicality, and a fresh perspective. We serve up ABA therapy, Organizational Behavior Management (OBM), compassionate care, and real-world case studiesno boring jargon, just straight talk about what really works.So, pour yourself a tall glass of knowledge, kick back, and always analyze responsibly. Cheers to better behavior analysis, behavior change, and behavior science! Language: en-us Genres: Education, Science, Social Sciences Contact email: Get it Feed URL: Get it iTunes ID: Get it |
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What Happens When Profit Becomes The Plan: ABA Business Leadership with Stephen and April Smith
Episode 37
Sunday, 20 September, 2026
Send us Fan MailABA on Tap is proud to spend more time with Stephen and April Smith:It's a pod swap! Please go to the ABA Business Leaders podcast to continue listening to this conversation. If you’ve ever watched a great BCBA become a burnt-out owner running on payroll panic, this conversation will feel uncomfortably familiar. Mike and Dan pod swap with Steven and April Smith from 3Pie Squared to get brutally practical about what actually keeps an ABA company ethical and sustainable when real-world pressure hits. The get into the nitty gritty regarding payor rules, credentialing delays, overhead, turnover, and the constant temptation to choose “easier” over “right.”We talk through Steven’s new book on building an ABA business and why he leans on questions, not cookie-cutter steps. The core idea is simple and hard: write down your vision, values, and red lines early, then use them to make decisions when the ecosystem tries to dictate your clinical work. That includes saying no to bad rates, resisting session models that drift toward daycare economics, and refusing shortcuts that sacrifice training, supervision, or compliance for short-term profit.We also dig into the true cost of RBT turnover, why undertraining becomes a safety issue, and how leaders can avoid recreating the same company culture they tried to leave. Finally, Steven and April share what they’re building next: a new all-in-one practice management software with waitlist management, parent portal, data collection, claims submission, telehealth, team messaging, and an AI session note checker designed to teach, not ghostwrite.Subscribe, share this with an ABA owner who needs guardrails, and leave a review with the one “non-negotiable” you refuse to compromise on.For Part 2, go to:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/aba-business-leaders/id1574542939https://open.spotify.com/show/3JNNWZfF5p37XVwAH6coWO?si=7eabf9f34fc642b3Support the show🔥 Enjoyed this episode? Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review on your favorite podcast platform!📢 Connect with Us:🔗 Website: https://abaontap.com🎧 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aba.on.tap.podcast📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abaontap/ 🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ABAonTap💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/aba-on-tap💡 Support the Show:☕ Love what we do? Buy us a virtual drink! Support ABA on Tap🎙️ Interested in sponsoring? Partner with us🚀 Join the ABA on Tap Community! Stay updated on the latest episodes, live events, and exclusive content.🎧 Analyze Responsibly & Keep the Conversation Going! 🍻
