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I Am InterchangeAuthor: Tate Chamberlin
I Am Interchange immerses you in the world of adventure journalism, where we fearlessly explore the monumental global changes, inequalities, and urgent issues surrounding the UN Sustainable Development Goals. Through raw, unfiltered storytelling, we dive into the tension within these goals and share the stories from the front lines of systems change. Language: en Genres: Science, Social Sciences, Society & Culture Contact email: Get it Feed URL: Get it iTunes ID: Get it |
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Unfinished Republic
Episode 113
Monday, 29 June, 2026
Here's something worth sitting with: the people who govern us mostly come from a narrow slice of the rest of us. Lawyers, for one. In the United States, they fill more than half of Congress. But it's wider than any single profession — it's wealth. The system favors the people who already have. Running for office costs money. Holding office rewards money. And so the rules end up written, again and again, by people who were already winning. When a single class writes the operating system for an entire country, you get a country that can only run one kind of program. Tate Chamberlin wanted to ask what the alternative even looks like. So he brought a few people together to find out. Because democracy was supposed to be the thing that belonged to everyone. Rule by the people — all of them, not the few who could afford a seat at the table. But somewhere along the way it narrowed. The choices got fewer. Two parties. One acceptable range of disagreement. And underneath it, quietly, the thing nobody campaigns on — the monopoly of violence. A state that alone holds the right to use force, and uses it to keep the arrangement exactly as it is. This conversation was recorded at Frontier Tower in San Francisco, at the Next Democracy Summit. Four people, four vantage points. Artur Py, from Ukraine, where the right to govern yourself is something people are fighting and dying to hold onto. Nicole Klau Ibarra, from Mexico, watching her own democracy bend under its own pressures. And Gage Olesen and Bruce McHenry, both based in the United States, both asking whether two parties and a settled status quo is really the best a free people can do. What they're reaching for is hard to name but easy to feel. A world with room in it for more than one world. Many ways of living together, not one imposed on all the rest. And the question that keeps surfacing — the one that outlasts any election: what kind of self-governance do we leave the people who come after us? That's today. Stay with us.
