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S03E55 - Kim Stanley Robinson on Real Utopian Futures
Episode 55
Saturday, 3 January, 2026

Kim Stanley Robinson discusses Real Utopian Futures. Find the feed of English episodes only here: https://www.futurehistories-international.com/ You can also import the RSS feed to your favorite app: https://www.futurehistories-international.com/feed.xml   Shownotes The reference page on Kim Stanley Robinson, his works, interviews, talks, etc. (including a discussion forum): https://www.kimstanleyrobinson.info/ Robinson, K. S. (2020). The Ministry for the Future. Orbit Books. https://www.orbit-books.co.uk/titles/kim-stanley-robinson/the-ministry-for-the-future/9780356508863/ Robinson, K. S. (2017). New York 2140. Orbit Books. https://www.orbit-books.co.uk/titles/kim-stanley-robinson/new-york-2140/9780356508788/ Robinson, K. S. (1988). The Gold Coast. Macmillan. https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780312890377/thegoldcoast/ Blumenfeld, J. (2024). Managing Decline. Cured Quail, Vol. 3. https://curedquail.com/Managing-Decline Blumenfeld, J. (2022). Climate Barbarism. Adapting to a wrong World. Constellations, 30, 162–178. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1467-8675.12596 the quoted Kohei Saito video: https://youtube.com/shorts/WnvhD7p651M?si=SdfPftKOCJM6MS9j the lecture in which Kim Stanley Robinson talks about “futurecide” and “preemptive capitulation”: https://youtu.be/HpzXkpx29S4?si=PVlOE53Hj5-BZR5B reporting on and summary of the talk: https://www.ioes.ucla.edu/article/the-war-on-science-is-here-kim-stanley-robinson-says-its-just-the-beginning/ Löwy, M. (2005). What is Ecosocialism? Capitalism Nature Socialism, 16(2), 15–24. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10455750500108237 for an overview of the history and different schools of Ecomarxist/Ecosocialist theory: https://www.historicalmaterialism.org/ecology-marxism-andreas-malm/ on Anna Kornbluh: http://www.annakornbluh.com/ on Mass Extinction Events: https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/what-is-mass-extinction-and-are-we-facing-a-sixth-one.html Dressler, A. (2025). You have 100 ‘Energy Slaves’. The Climate Brink. https://www.theclimatebrink.com/p/you-have-100-energy-slaves on the 30 by 30 Biodiversity Goal: https://www.cop28.com/en/thought-leadership/The-30x30-Biodiversity-Goal-at-COP28 the International Maritime Organization: https://www.imo.org/ on the ‘Half-Earth Project’: https://eowilsonfoundation.org/what-is-the-half-earth-project/ Wilson, E. O. (2016). Half-Earth. Our Planet’s Fight for Life. Norton Books. https://wwnorton.com/books/9781631492525 Pendergrass, D. & Vettese, T. (2022). Half-Earth Socialism. A Plan to Save the Future from Extinction, Climate Change and Pandemics. Verso. https://www.versobooks.com/products/2650-half-earth-socialism one of the many interviews/talks in which Kim Stanley Robinson talks about science fiction as the realism of our times: https://youtu.be/p1wNhc46xjE?si=hOdKuwRQhef-9tLs on the Turing Test: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test on Neoliberalism attaching itself to demands of the New Left: Boltanski, L. & Chiapello, E. (2018). The New Spirit of Capitalism. Verso. https://www.versobooks.com/products/1980-the-new-spirit-of-capitalism on Friedrich Hayek: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Hayek Williams, R. (2015). Structures of Feeling. In: D. Sharma & F. Tygstrup (Ed.), Structures of Feeling. Affectivity and the Study of Culture (pp. 20-26). https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783110365481.20/html on Keynesianism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_economics Vogl, J. (2017). The Ascendancy of Finance. Polity Press. https://www.politybooks.com/bookdetail?book_slug=the-ascendancy-of-finance--9781509509294 Graeber, D. (2011). Debt. The First 5,000 Years. Melville House. https://files.libcom.org/files/__Debt__The_First_5_000_Years.pdf on Thomas Piketty: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Piketty on Gabriel Zucman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Zucman on the ‘Zucman tax’: https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2025/09/23/zucman-tax-what-the-proposed-wealth-tax-would-mean-for-france_6745653_8.html on Carbon Taxes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_tax Sorg, C. (2023). Finance as a Form of Economic Planning. Competition & Change, 29(1), 17-37. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/10245294231217578 Sarkar, S. (2024). The Carbon Coin. An Eco-Speculative Approach to Decarbonisation in Kim Stanley Robinson’s The Ministry for the Future. Green Letters, 28(4), 297–310. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14688417.2025.2483998 A policy proposal on ‘Carbon Reward’ from the same researcher whose earlier policy work inspired the ‘Carbon Coin’ idea in The Ministry for the Future: https://deltonchen.substack.com/p/new-economic-blueprint-for-resolving see also: https://globalcarbonreward.org/newsletters/carbon-coin/ on Quantitative Easing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_easing on Carbon Drawdown: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_sequestration on Nicolas Stern: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Stern,_Baron_Stern_of_Brentford on the Democratic Socialists of America: https://www.dsausa.org/ the Network for Greening the Financial System: https://www.ngfs.net/en on COP30 in Belém: https://unfccc.int/cop30 Solnit, R. (2022). Orwell’s Roses. Penguin. https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/607057/orwells-roses-by-rebecca-solnit/ Future Histories Episodes on Related Topics S3E47 | Jason W. Moore on Socialism in the Web of Life https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e47-jason-w-moore-on-socialism-in-the-web-of-life/ S03E44 | Anna Kornbluh on Climate Counteraesthetics https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e44-anna-kornbluh-on-climate-counteraesthetics/ S03E32 | Jacob Blumenfeld on Climate Barbarism and Managing Decline https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e32-jacob-blumenfeld-on-climate-barbarism-and-managing-decline/ S03E30 | Matt Huber & Kohei Saito on Growth, Progress and Left Imaginaries https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e30-matt-huber-kohei-saito-on-growth-progress-and-left-imaginaries/ S03E23 | Andreas Malm on Overshooting into Climate Breakdown https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e23-andreas-malm-on-overshooting-into-climate-breakdown/ S02E18 | Drew Pendergrass and Troy Vettese on Half Earth Socialism https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e18-drew-pendergrass-and-troy-vettese-on-half-earth-socialism/ --- If you are interested in democratic economic planning, these resources might be of help: Democratic planning – an information website https://www.democratic-planning.com/ Sorg, C. & Groos, J. (eds.)(2025). Rethinking Economic Planning. Competition & Change Special Issue Volume 29 Issue 1. https://journals.sagepub.com/toc/ccha/29/1 Groos, J. & Sorg, C. (2025). Creative Construction - Democratic Planning in the 21st Century and Beyond. Bristol University Press. [for a review copy, please contact: amber.lanfranchi[at]bristol.ac.uk] https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/creative-construction International Network for Democratic Economic Planning https://www.indep.network/ Democratic Planning Research Platform: https://www.planningresearch.net/ --- Future Histories Contact & Support If you like Future Histories, please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/join/FutureHistories Contact: office@futurehistories.today Twitter: https://twitter.com/FutureHpodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/futurehpodcast/ Mastodon: https://mstdn.social/@FutureHistories English webpage: https://futurehistories-international.com   Episode Keywords #KimStanleyRobinson, #JanGroos, #Interview, #FutureHistories, #FutureHistoriesInternational, #futurehistoriesinternational, #Utopia, #RealUtopias, #DemocraticPlanning, #Keynes, #Dystopia, #DemocraticEconomicPlanning, #Capitalism, #EcoSocialism, #Socialism, #GreenCapitalism, #Narratives, #ClimateCounterAesthetics, #Transition, #SocioEcologicalTransition, #SocialDemocracy, #ScienceFiction

 

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