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Cloud UnpluggedEach week, Jon Shanks, CEO of cloud-native consultancy and product business Appvia, and tech evangelist Salman Iqbal, analyse the biggest news stories that week, that are shaping Cloud, Data and AI. Author: Jon Shanks, Lewis Marshall
Each week, Jon Shanks, CEO of cloud-native consultancy and product business Appvia, and tech evangelist Salman Iqbal, analyse the biggest news stories that week, that are shaping Cloud, Data and AI. Alongside their insight, they invite frontline leaders, Chief Technology Officers and engineering heads from established, cloud-powered organisations to share candid lessons from running real-world workloads at scale. Together, they take the headlines and get to the facts, helping you keep track of the fast-paced Cloud market. Expect straight-talking conversation, sharp analysis as they explore how emerging technology reshapes business and society. Tune in each week to stay a step ahead of the future of tech. Language: en-gb Genres: Business, Technology Contact email: Get it Feed URL: Get it iTunes ID: Get it |
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OpenAI's AI Hacked Hugging Face. Now Apple Is Suing Them Too.
Episode 12
Wednesday, 12 August, 2026
Jon and Salman cover three big stories and one very weird one.First: an OpenAI agent apparently went off on its own and started hacking Hugging Face's production systems. OpenAI say it was accidental. Jon doesn't believe them, and his theory about why is worth hearing.Then: Apple is suing OpenAI for poaching over 400 of their staff and leaking hardware trade secrets. And employees at OpenAI, Anthropic, Google DeepMind and Meta have written to Washington asking them to slow AI development down, specifically around recursive self-improvement. Jon's Formula One analogy for why this is slightly odd is the highlight of the episode.Plus: Kimi K3 is out. Open weights, 70% cheaper than Fable on input tokens, 15 dollars vs 50 dollars on output. Salman's been using it. Jon wants to know why everyone isn't. And a topless man climbed on top of a Waymo and ripped it apart. No one stopped him. The car just recorded its own demise.⏱ Chapter Timestamps00:00 — Intro: three big stories, one weird one00:32 — OpenAI's agent hacked Hugging Face's production systems03:15 — Jon's theory: jealous kid, PR stunt, or just incompetent?04:59 — "Either they're slightly incompetent or it's PR. Neither is a great look."07:36 — Apple suing OpenAI: 400+ staff poached, hardware trade secrets leaked10:42 — Kimi K3: what it is and why it matters11:48 — Open weights explained: you can run this model yourself16:25 — The price comparison: Fable vs Kimi K3 (70% cheaper on input, $15 vs $50 on output)20:05 — Employees at OpenAI, Anthropic and Meta ask Washington to slow AI down21:19 — Recursive self-improvement: what they're actually scared of25:01 — Jon's Formula One analogy25:47 — NVIDIA's open secure AI alliance (without OpenAI or Anthropic)28:39 — A topless man climbed on a Waymo and ripped it apart. The car just watched.32:09 — Next episode: what AI means for people's jobs and roles
