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The Dr. Haley Show

Nutrition For Health Radicals And High Performers

Author: Michael Haley

Nutrition and healing your body doesn't have to be so complicated. The Dr. Haley Show is a podcast dedicated to helping you optimize your health in all areas of your life. We will be featuring health radicals on the show to bring new ideas to the table as well as doubling down on key fundamentals to support you living your best life. To see how we can help and support you on your health journey, tune into the episodes and listen for coupon codes that you can use before you make your orders of RAW aloe vera. To learn more about bettering your health and the powerful effects of aloe vera, please visit: https://haleynutrition.com/
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153 | Normal Labs, Still Exhausted? Chronic Fatigue, Long COVID & the Toxic Five | Dr. Evan Hirsch
Episode 153
Tuesday, 15 September, 2026

Why can someone feel profoundly exhausted even when routine blood work looks normal?In this episode of The Dr. Haley Show, Dr. Michael Haley talks with Evan H. Hirsch, MD, known as the EnergyMD, about chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS), Long COVID, post-exertional malaise, environmental exposures, nervous-system regulation, and the limitations Dr. Hirsch sees in relying on laboratory testing alone.After struggling with chronic fatigue himself for five years, Dr. Hirsch began looking beyond conventional and functional medicine for answers. That journey led him to develop the EnergyMD Method and what he calls the “Toxic Five”: heavy metals, chemicals, mold, infections, and nervous-system dysfunction or trauma. :contentReference[oaicite:0]{index=0}In this conversation, Dr. Hirsch explains:• What separates chronic fatigue from ordinary tiredness• The role of post-exertional malaise, brain fog, pain, and poor sleep• How ME/CFS and Long COVID can overlap• Why he believes laboratory testing can sometimes miss important contributors• The “Toxic Five” framework• His views on mold, heavy metals, infections, and environmental exposures• His four-step EnergyMD Method• Why he replaces deficiencies before addressing deeper toxicities• What he means by “opening the exit pathways”• Nervous-system and limbic-system retraining• Breathwork, vagal stimulation, mindset, and parasympathetic activity• Why he believes recovery often takes many months• How he tracks energy and symptom improvement over timeDr. Hirsch also discusses one of the more controversial aspects of his approach: treating suspected contributors even when laboratory testing does not confirm them. Dr. Haley challenges him on how to distinguish a helpful treatment reaction from an adverse response and how clinical experience should be weighed alongside testing and research.The conversation concludes with an important message for people who have spent years looking for answers: keep asking why, continue looking for underlying contributors, and track progress over time rather than expecting an overnight recovery.RESOURCESDr. Evan Hirsch / EnergyMD Method: https://www.energymdmethod.com/Fix Your Fatigue Masterclass: https://fixyourfatigue.com/Book — Fix Your Fatigue: https://www.energymdmethod.com/fyf-bookEpisode page and full transcript: https://drhaley.com/chronic-fatigue-toxic-five/Dr. Hirsch specifically recommends FixYourFatigue.com as the next place to learn more about his current approach and masterclass.This podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Statements made by guests represent their own views, clinical experience, and interpretation of the available evidence. Always consult an appropriately qualified healthcare professional regarding your individual health and treatment decisions.

 

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