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Episode 88, Antti Ilmanen, Ph.D., talks about how investors form long-run return expectations, Rick Ferri host
Episode 90
Friday, 28 November, 2025
Antti Ilmanen, Ph.D., is a Principal and Global Co-head of the Portfolio Solutions Group at AQR Capital. He has published extensively in finance journals and has received numerous awards. Antti is the author of Expected Returns (Wiley, 2011) and Investing Amid Low Expected Returns (Wiley, 2022), which I discussed with him on Episode 49. Antti recently completed a series of 10 papers on "How Do Investors Form Long-Run Return Expectations?" The papers are free on the AQR website, and they are the subject of this podcast. Rick Ferri, a long-time Boglehead and investment adviser, hosts this episode. The Bogleheads are a group of like-minded individual investors who follow the general investment and business beliefs of John C. Bogle, founder and former CEO of the Vanguard Group. It is a conflict-free community where individual investors reach out and provide education, assistance, and relevant information to other investors of all experience levels at no cost. The organization supports a free forum at Bogleheads.org, and the wiki site is Bogleheads® wiki. Since 2000, the Bogleheads have held national conferences in major cities across the country. In addition, local Chapters and foreign Chapters meet regularly, and new Chapters form periodically. All Bogleheads activities are coordinated by volunteers who contribute their time and talent. This podcast is supported by the John C. Bogle Center for Financial Literacy, a non-profit organization approved by the IRS as a 501(c)(3) public charity on February 6, 2012. Your tax-deductible donation to the Bogle Center is appreciated.












