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Thunderbolts* and Mental Illness
Episode 352
Monday, 2 June, 2025
Hosts Riki and Matthew welcome returning guest Jessica Plummer to dive deep into Marvel's Thunderbolts* and its bold attempt to explore mental illness within the superhero genre. The discussion examines whether the film succeeds in portraying depression authentically or falls into problematic tropes about sad white men needing rescue.The hosts debate whether the film's treatment of Bob/Sentry reinforces toxic masculinity tropes or genuinely explores community support for mental health struggles. Jessica argues that Yelena remains the true protagonist throughout, while Matthew initially worried the film prioritized Bob's emotional journey over everyone else's.How does the movie portray different types of depression across its ensemble cast? The conversation explores how each character—Yelena's open struggles, Bucky's careful masking, Alexi's self-medication—represents different manifestations of depression and coping mechanisms. The hosts examine whether the film successfully shows that depression isn’t one-size-fits-all.Can superhero blockbusters meaningfully address serious mental health issues? The discussion weighs whether films with action sequences and quips can authentically explore topics like depression, or if the entertainment format undermines the message. They consider how Thunderbolts* compares to other MCU attempts at mental health representation.Does the film's "group hug" resolution feel authentic or overly simplistic? Drawing from a Polygon article by Tasha Robinson, the hosts examine whether the movie adequately addresses the shame and complexity of accepting help during mental health crises, or if it presents an unrealistic fantasy of easy healing.Other Topics CoveredThe significance of Yelena as the true protagonist versus Bob as a supporting characterHow the film's non-romantic dynamic between Yelena and Bob affects the narrativeComparison between comic book Sentry/Void and the movie adaptationThe role of community and connection in mental health recoveryVisual metaphors for depression (the hole/ladder analogy, elevator shaft scene)John Walker's portrayal of domestic depression and toxic masculinityThe impact of different casting choices on the film's themesHow Thunderbolts fits within broader MCU mental health representationThe creative team's background in depression-focused storytelling (The Bear, Beef)**************************************************************************This episode is a production of Superhero Ethics, a The Ethical Panda Podcast and part of the TruStory FM Entertainment Podcast Network. Check our our website to find out more about this and our sister podcast Star Wars Generations.We want to hear from you! You can keep up with our latest news, and send us feedback, questions, or comments via social media or email.Email: Matthew@TheEthicalPanda.comFacebook: TheEthicalPandaInstagram: TheEthicalPandaPodcastsTwitter: EthicalPanda77Or you can join jump into the Star Wars Generations and Superhero Ethics channels on the TruStory FM Discord.Want to get access to even more content while supporting the podcast? Become a member! For $5 a month, or $55 a year you get access to bonus episodes and bonus content at the end of most episodes. Sign up on the podcast’s main page. You can even give membership as a gift!You can also support our podcasts through our sponsors:Purchase a lightsaber from Level Up Sabers run by friend of the podcast Neighborhood Master AlanUse Audible for audiobooks. Sign up for a one year membership or gift one through this link.Purchase any media discussed this week through our sponsored links.
