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Laugh, Lend and EatAuthor: Fobby Naghmi
Laugh, Lend, and Eat is where business meets banter. Hosted by Fobby Naghmi the show explores mortgage lending, leadership, fintech, and saleswith a side of humor and food talk. Known for his ability to ask candid, thought-provoking questions, Fobby creates a space where guests open up and real insights shine through. It's smart, relaxed, and made for professionals who want to grow, lead, and laugh along the way. Language: en Contact email: Get it Feed URL: Get it iTunes ID: Get it |
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This One P&L Number Could Sink Your Branch | Mortgage P&L Breakdown, Pt. 2
Tuesday, 3 November, 2026
When Gabe Gillen opens a branch P&L, he looks at one number first. If it's over 50%, that branch has to do a lot of volume just to make money.In Part 2 of our Mortgage P&L Breakdown series, Fobby Naghmi and Justin Neal bring back Gabe Gillen, Divisional President at AnnieMac Home Mortgage, to go past the definitions and into how leaders actually read a P&L: what to look at first, what should worry a new P&L holder, and whether every loan officer should be given one.In this episode:• Commission-to-margin ratio: the first number Gabe checks• Why volume matters more than units• Concessions, and why they belong in your pro forma• "Flat" isn't failing if you're reinvesting and growing• Why a 180-unit producer should own the upside• Promoting top producers into management (and when it backfires)• The expense new P&L holders cut too soon• Should someone with no growth plan get a P&L?New to the series? Start with Part 1, "Mortgage P&L Breakdown: What We Wish We'd Known."CHAPTERS00:00 Intro02:02 Picking up where Part 1 left off04:18 The first number Gabe looks at on a branch P&L06:24 Volume vs. units09:17 The top producer you're losing money on10:49 "How's your P&L going?" Asking recruits the hard question14:12 Concessions: the number that should worry a new P&L holder17:04 Six months in: profit or growth18:29 Why a 180-unit producer should own the upside20:36 Promoting top producers to manager21:55 Justin's P&L mistake23:40 The lesson Gabe wishes he'd learned 10 years ago26:58 The expense new P&L holders cut too soon33:29 Why companies give P&Ls to loan officers35:21 What if they have no vision for growth?38:10 Are we all becoming mini brokers?39:04 Next time: LO compensationFollow Laugh, Lend & Eat so you don't miss Part 3, and leave us a rating if this one helped.Laugh, Lend & Eat is a podcast for loan officers, branch managers, and mortgage leaders.













