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Episode #86: Wise Guys - Greg Schirk, SAWDAC
Episode 86
Friday, 16 October, 2026

A Window Wise trainer walks into a bar and sits down next to the old window dealer. He says "Hey, want to get your crews certified as Window Wise installation professionals?" The old dealer scoffs. "Oh sure. What if I train them and then they just leave the company?"The Window Wise trainer replies, "OK. But what if you don't train them and they stay?"Greg Schirk is a trainer for SAWDAC's Window Wise program. In 30 years in the window industry, he's seen most of it. He joins the Conversation to explain why getting your crew trained is more important now than ever.